Posted on February 29th, 2012 by Colin and is posted in Interviews
Welcome to this next interview in the series of Meet the Experts. This interview is with Trina Lee – http://www.kahelefoundation.org/. Trina is the CEO and founder of the Kahele Foundation; she has been featured on radio several times to speak about Autism and The Pure Sound Therapy program.
The Kahele Foundation’s mission is to bring a strong awareness of their Pure Sound Therapy programme to the forefront and to obtain support from other like-minded researchers and organisations with the goal of helping more children and families discover the healing power of this music.
Trina has numerous testimonials from parents that have children dealing with Autism, and the effects that the music has had on their wellbeing. Testimonials also include a grandmother who experienced a miracle with her daughter who had seizures, helping severely sexual abused children sleep peacefully, and other transformational breakthroughs involving Pure Sound Therapy.
In this interview we talk about:
- What Pure Sound Therapy is
- What effects the music has had on Autistic Children
- The benefits of sound and Pure Sound Therapy
- How the music can be used to help with stress and health issues
- The research Trina has done with dolphins in Hawaii
- … and much more!
Here is a 1 minute clip of Trina’s music and amazing voice. Click on if you would like to hear it.
Thanks Trina for a great interview and showing us the healing power of music.
Enjoy and remember, leave us a comment and give it some Facebook love.
To your happiness and success
Colin (aka The Midlife Maverick)
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Colin: All right. Welcome to this next call in the Meet the Experts series. I’m very please to have Trina Lee on the call today and she is the CEO and founder of the Kahele Foundation. She speaks regularly on radio about pure sound therapy and she’s done some pioneering work in the area of autistic children and the power that music has in order to help them. Welcome, Trina.
Trina Lee: Thank you.
Colin: How are you today?
Trina: Not bad. It’s been kind of busy but it’s great.
Colin: One of those busy weeks, right?
Colin: Very good. Let me just share how we actually hooked up. For those of you that are watching, you know I’ve got my little book which is called “Follow Your Smile” and Trina downloaded that, read that, and then Facebooked me and gave me some feedback, very kind feedback. I followed up and found this website about the Kahele Foundation and started to just look through it. Then I found a video on there about a little boy, must have been around five or six, something like that. Whoever it was that was in the room had a CD player and they played this piece of music, beautiful sounding voice, and the little boy’s reaction to it was incredible and he so wanted to listen to it. I’m presupposing that was an autistic child.
I thought wow, I’d love to know more about this because this is really exciting and I’m sure that some of the followers that I have and those of you, if you’re listening right now, may even know people that have someone that has an autistic child.
Why don’t you just bring us up to speed then, Trina, with how do you fill your time now? What sorts of things are you doing at the moment?
Trina: Our foundation, we are gathering data to get the business involved and donation process for the pure sounds therapy because we’re working with the doctors and the professors and our grant writer, Jamie, is gathering this for us. We also have a survey questionnaire forms for the research program for autistic parents so that they can give us some more testimonials exactly what this is doing for them. It’s a noble cause. It’s everything that I want to do and we’re going viral and the foundation is moving to social media, Facebook, and now YouTube thanks to you.
Colin: [laughs] How very good. Is it a not for profit foundation?
Trina: Yes. Basically whoever buys a CD it goes directly to the children. That’s the way I set it up.
Colin: All right. Fantastic. What inspired you to get into this type of work?
Trina: It’s a long story. Do you have some time?
Colin: [laughs] I have some time.
Trina: Basically I’m a singer and producer and the music just came to me. I had an opportunity to meet Barry Oser, he’s a world‑renowned concert pianist, and I saw him playing at this concert and I introduced myself to him. I told him, “Hi, my name is Trina Lee, I’m going to do music with you.” That’s how I am. I’m kind of bold sometimes. I’ll get up and sing in front of thousands of people. I’ve been told many times that opportunities only come once in a lifetime. I disagree. I believe that if your vibration is high enough and if you truly believe in yourself the opportunities are always knocking. I was in a country music scene and I wasn’t classically trained and I just knew in my heart this was a calling and then I met Barry Oser and we started collaborating together.
As he started playing the piano my voice carried over the piano and I just knew instantly. I knew this is it.
Colin: OK. You started then. What was the genre of music, then? Was it still country and western music or was it something different that you were moving into?
Trina: It was basically something that I was moving into but something I’ve never done. This music is not in a genre. It’s not in the spiritual section or the new age. It has its own placement. What I did after the music was created, I went to the studio and I lengthened it for about 45 minutes and this music was for me. This was my music to sleep. That was it. The next week I had lunch with a friend and her daughter was seven years old and she had bags under her eyes. That doesn’t make sense to me, for a child that is seven years old having bags under their eyes. They should always be able to sleep peacefully. I asked her why and she told me that her daughter was sexually abused by a neighbor and she couldn’t sleep. She has nightmares.
I happened to have a CD in my purse and I said, “Let’s see if she can sleep.”
Colin: So what happened?
Trina: Well, the next day she called me up and she was basically crying saying her daughter can sleep and she’s singing to the music. Right then and there I knew this is it. This is what I’m supposed to do and this is my calling. Here I am.
Colin: When did you first realize, then, that this music that you created was going to have the impact that it’s having? What was the first experience of that?
Trina: It was basically Kevin, Kevin which you see on the website. One of the directors, Kevin is her nephew and she invited me to the house to meet Kevin. At the time he was very agitated and I think it’s because of the surroundings. Everything has to be the same. When he comes home everything has to be calm, that’s what the mother said, and having a new person in there just changes his whole atmosphere. I was very calm, I didn’t speak to him, I gave him his space, and he was just agitated with coming back to school and everything and he’s eight years old. I decided to play the music and as I played the music, as you see in the video, he went straight to the music and put his ear to the CD player. I had the recording and I was just in awe. I literally was blown away by how he reacted.
I’d been to some schools with autistic children and we played the music and they did the same thing. They put their ears next to the CD player and they were calm. They were playing more in that calming manner. I’ve also had parents contact me and say that they’ve used the music to calm their child for eating or for play time so it depends. The one thing that I do know is that it calms a child down, the tantrums eventually stop, and the parents have told me this.
We are on the verge of something that can change.
Colin: What other results have you got with maybe children outside, or anyone, outside of autism?
Trina: In northern California I met this girl named Alexandra. She’s eight years old. She was having seizures. Her grandmother actually contacted us and she wanted the CD to help her granddaughter sleep because he granddaughter was having seizures. Sometimes it was once a week and then sometimes it was twice a week. I sent the music over and we didn’t hear from her grandmother for at least six months and then one day we hear from her grandmother and she said that Alexandra is off her medication, she hasn’t had seizures within those six months. They started slowing down and her doctor took her off her medication and Alexandra sleeps with this at night.
That was an experience. It was pretty amazing. I was really thrilled about it. Every time I hear a testimonial of what this is doing this is what I’m here for, this is my calling, this is my gift.
Colin: Yes. Yes, yes, yes. When did you have that realization that this is your calling, that this is the gift that I’ve been put on this planet to give? When did that really hit home to you?
Trina: Actually, we were at the big island, at Kona, in the year 2004. My mom was with me and I was with John Float, he’s an oceanographer. It’s been the fourth time at that time that I was swimming with dolphins out in the deep in the ocean over there. Yeah, I love it. The best experience you can do is go in the ocean with someone who has a boat, jump in the water, and swim with the dolphins. It’s amazing.
Colin: These are just dolphins in nature?
Trina: Yes. Yes. The wild. It’s the best. The dolphins weren’t coming at the time and I can remember testimonials so I decided, I asked John to put the music on. He has this boat where when he puts the music on on the bottom you can hear the music from. The music was vibrating in the water so within 15 minutes they came.
testimonials so I decided, I asked John to put the music on. He has this boat where when he puts the music on on the bottom you can hear the music from. The music was vibrating in the water so within 15 minutes they came.
Colin: How many?
Trina: It was about 100.
Colin: 100? [laughs]
Trina: Yeah. They were circling the boat. Then it came to a pod of 50 but they were circling the boat for at least an hour and a half to two hours so it was amazing but here’s the amazing part. As they were leaving and other boats were coming because they couldn’t find the dolphins so the dolphins were there, as the dolphins left and the other boats left, a whale. I see this huge tail [laughs] by the boat, and this humpbacked whale is 10 feet away from the boat. Her baby was next to her. I was just…another ah moment. So I knew right then and there, this is it. There’s got to be something between the children and dolphins and whales and this music, so that’s been the journey. That’s when I knew.
Colin: That’s amazing. That’s an incredible story. So pure sound therapy, tell us a little bit about what it is and maybe how it’s different to whatever else is out there. Then we’ll talk a bit more about some of the results you’re getting.
Trina: Well, the Kahele Foundation, the mission is to help children who are diagnosed or experience symptoms of autism as well the ones that suffer from physical elements and emotional abuse. That’s the main goal there, and the Kahele Foundation is currently researching and developing new programs. Pure sound therapy is one of those programs. What it is is we’re looking to do research with the EEG brain scan to find out exactly what this music is doing. So that’s where pure sound therapy comes in that form. We also have doctors and professors that are working with us, so this is something special. In the new programs, which will include the visual along with the audio elements that enhance a child’s ability to cope with society.
So the audio assistance to help autistic children boost their motor skills and enhance their verbal communication will improve their social interaction. So it’s not just the music. We’re working with visual, also, but that’s later on in the future.
Colin: Right, and the music. Tell us a little bit about the music. How is the music created?
Trina: Music is created. Well, when Barry Oser was playing the piano, my voice went above and around the music. That’s how it was created, and as sound is and sound creates, it created within two minutes. The melody was just already there. I really didn’t [laughs] know what I was doing. It’s [laughs] funny. When I was a little girl, I used to sing to the birds. But that’s just playing around. [laughs]
Colin: So far then, is it one track that you’re using? Have you created more than one track? Are there lots of variations or different CDs?
Trina: It’s one track, but it’s three songs. It’s 45 minutes long, but we are working to have a trio. So we’re going to have a bass player, a violinist, and a harpist. We’re going to work something differently that’s next in the future, and it’s going to be stronger than what it is now. So I’m extremely excited about it, but we’re also looking for those donations to help because I have brought my own money into this, my own everything.
Colin: All right. OK, well, we’ll see if we can help you with that. I know that you also help people with stress and health and you use meditation. So can you tell us a little bit about what you do there? Does the music come in as well?
Trina: Well, too, before you meditate you have to learn balance. Without balance, as you know, you fall. So balance is about you taking care of yourself, your body, your mind, and your soul. It’s not about you taking care of other people and ignoring yourself. So many people in this world are stressed. The environment is stressful, and going to the store is stressful. So it’s just important to bring in that type of sound to help with the mediation. A friend of mine is a professor, and she told me all things come from sound and all things return to sound. She said that the quantum scientists say if you shrink down to the size of an atom, you would be a symphony of sound. So this music helps with the meditation, and it puts you in a peaceful state.
In the beginning you don’t have to go through the tools. Some people have CDs and you have to relax and relax your hands and your arms and everything else. In this CD, you just don’t. You just close your eyes, and it takes you under instantly. It’s very hypnotic. Trust me. I’ve tried it.
Me and my [laughs] friends. We were driving one time with the music, and we almost hit a sign because your mind is in a whole different state. It takes you into an alter state. The alter state is before you go into the dream.
So Buddhists, Christians, Hinduism, Islam, they all use sound for meditation, so this is nothing new. But the difference is is that after you’re done meditating with it, and [laughs] sometimes you will fall asleep, the next day you feel more refreshed and you feel more balanced. I always say to mothers who have children, “Take 10 minutes. Listen to the music. Come back and work with your children.”
Colin: Yeah, very good. That’s fantastic. You talked a little bit about future projects, but anything else in terms of what you’ve got coming up what would be good just to talk about?
Trina: Well, we’re looking into, as I said, the visual. So a DVD with the music and then maybe some other things. This is for autistic children, so that is our goal. Also, I would like to do research with babies. There’s a thing called Mozart Therapy. It’s been already researched and shown that the development with the music has helped with the brain with the children and with the studies. So I would like to see what would it do with the babies? So that’s the other goal. Our goal is to reach global, so that’s where the PR comes from. So we want to develop a strategic partnership with other autistic organizations. We plan to take it to the next level using social media outlets. Everything that I speak about, YouTube, blogging, Twitter.
The basic thing is to know that everything is an idea, and every day as we are spreading awareness in more and more people we want to help, the sheer ratio of autism staggering is approximately one percent of the U. S. population. So the foundation is just an idea, and ideas cannot be destroyed. So we are here.
Colin: Very good. And what can the listener do? Where can they go? What would be the best websites? Because I think I looked on KaheleFoundation.org. But yeah, if you could just talk to the listener a little bit about where to go, what would be good to look at, and if there’s anything that would be worth reading.
Trina: Well, KaheleFoundation.org, you can go there, and you also can go to Twitter, which is Kahele‑‑org. When you go to KaheleFoundation.org, you go to music, and you hear the music. Then there’s CD Baby, and you can go through CD Baby. But we’re also going to have it on Amazon and iTunes, so the more PR that we get the more that you will see it coming through.
Colin: All right. Very good. This is a question that I spring with everyone that I interview, and just see where it takes you. So as you sit here today, what’s becoming clearer to you?
Trina: Do I have [laughs] that noise? [laughter]
Trina: The countdown? [laughs]
Colin: Yeah. No, you don’t have any countdowns, but it’s an open question, just an intriguing question I’ve asked of everyone that I’ve interviewed right at the end. What’s becoming clearer to you?
Trina: Vibration, because sound is vibration. I’ve learned this through your program, that the more you work with vibration with people and with sound and with your body, then you will have happiness. But if you’re with people with a lower vibration, you’re not going to find happiness. You’re not going to find balance. You’re just going to find chaos, and they’re going to fight with you. So I truly believe vibration is it.
Colin: Vibration is it. OK, and so what would be your couple of top tips then for the listener then? If it’s about vibration, what can they do? What in your experience can they do to improve in that area?
Trina: Well, first they need to follow your skills. [laughter]
Trina: Well, you have the right direction, and that’s very important. Also, happiness is a choice. They have to really decide and to change that vibration is to really look around you. Look at your world. Look at what’s going on in your life. You can’t change the people, but you can change yourself. Actually, if you change yourself the other people will start changing, also, through just vibration and energy. That’s just the way the world is. And validation. Believe in yourself because if I didn’t believe in this, it wouldn’t go anywhere.
Colin: No. Well, the certainty creates a strong vibration, right?
Colin: So doubt creates resistance, and certainty creates attractiveness. So it’s no wonder that we’re on this call for a start. [laughter]
Trina: And have passionate people around you. Someone passionate, because once you change and have those passionate people, oh my gosh! You better just hold onto your seat. That’s all I have to say. [laughter]
Colin: All right. Well, thank you very much, Trina, for your time today and your insights. I will post your website below this video so the listener can click on and click through and take a look at your foundation and the work that you’re doing and I hope will give a little donation as well. So thank you very much for your time today.
Trina: Thank you so much, Colin.